Riccardo Fogli: «They requested me to decide on: the Poohs or Patty Pravo and I selected love. However what a ache…”

“Ardour for girls is the gas that drives the engine of songwriters, and extra: to like and be cherished, take off your armor, decrease your defenses, and give up your self to the grace of affection, weakens and strengthens you. However from right here to say I used to be a womanizer… Looks like a giant phrase. Who did you maintain me for, for D’Annunzio? What we write within the songs is after all the results of actual experiences. And I nonetheless do not perceive if it was us who influenced our love songs or if it was the songs that influenced us. However you then go on stage and also you see the ladies you and throwing consideration at you, however I’ve by no means been a womanizer ». In October, Riccardo Fogli blows out 75 candles. However its appeal stays unchanged. Celebrating 40 years since his Sanremo win with that milestone of “On a regular basis Tales,” the previous Pooh frontman and bassist has determined to recount his life within the “Predestinato (metalworker)” ebook CD, launched by Azzurra Music.

How does it really feel to look again?

«Till yesterday everybody known as me Riccardino. Then all of a sudden I am on the Island of the Well-known the place they known as me “grandfather”. oh then? In any case, my previous buddies in Pontedera and Piombino nonetheless name me … Riccardino ».

Let’s begin over there, from his birthplace, after the conflict.

«I’ve at all times and at all times been in love with Pontedera. Since then, as a child within the period, I went fishing for fish below rocks. I went again there simply earlier than Covid for a live performance and I seen it virtually felt like a metropolis. There may be not a trip or journey I’ve taken on the earth the place I’ve not met a fellow citizen who stopped me from telling me that his grandmother knew me or that I had gone to high school together with his grandfather. Right here, there I started to grasp that possibly they noticed me slightly previous “

What was Riccardo Fogli like as a baby?

“I grew up sporting my mom’s skirt as a result of there was nothing in my home however poverty: no toys, no bicycle. She listened to the radio whereas she was knitting: She took a bag of sweaters from an organization and made the eyelets that stitching machines did not make on the time. After we moved in close to the church, I used to be an altar boy and spent the afternoon within the chapel, like a traditional baby. On the oratorio you go to the elder, the primary swear phrases, the great and the lesser. I had lived below a glass dome and nobody had taught me to know proper from unsuitable.”

You had been a really poor household, what can your expertise be taught from the brand new poverty, from those that say we reside in a declining society?

“The distinction with time is that we did not know wealth, that sort of poverty did not scare me. I used to be a cheerful baby. I by no means had the advanced of wealth and poverty, what I ate was at all times good as a result of my mom knew how you can prepare dinner with what was there. However I do know that immediately if we eliminated the iPhone, the newest technological advances, the attractive clothes or the 20-degree air con in the home from our kids and grandchildren, I’d even be in bother ».

He labored as a Piaggio employee and tire vendor in Maremma. Jobs which can be stated today that nobody desires to do them anymore…

“Manufacturing unit aged 14 to 18, sure. And I attempted to work additional time as a lot as doable to enhance the standard of my life. They did not even ask me about it, I launched myself, even on Saturday, to have the ability to purchase the scooter that might take me to the music trainer Santarnecchi in Montecarboli, which was 5 kilometers uphill. After eight hours on the manufacturing facility, I would go dwelling, seize a chunk to eat, and seize the bike with my little guitar in my arms with out the sure and the strings to make it virtually a bass, which he let me examine on. However I gave all the cash to my mom, who in the future discovered me a fifty, costing 10 thousand lire, and consuming extra oil than combination, creating numerous smoke, however it made me glad.”

What was life like as a Piaggio employee?

“It was like gents, with a set wage. After we resigned to reside in Piombino, my father regretted it: who made us do it? He stated. Right here you do not have the cash to pay the payments. We arrange a tire store, however it was so small that we used a jack in the midst of the street ».

Household ties are essential to her.

“Loads. After I gave the moped to my father – who was already 60 – and I noticed him with shining eyes, that was an vital second. He was glad as a baby with that basket behind him with which he went buying: “Son, you gave me one of the best current of my life” he advised me In Piombino we had issues within the store, my massive brother and my dad and mom had turn into hostages, so that they requested him in the event that they needed to return to the origin, to the nation, with two chickens within the coop My mother stated it will be one of the best reward on the earth, so I took them right here, 11 miles away, and constructed them a rooster coop and a vegetable backyard with a nicely, taking the wasp motor to get water from the nicely We grew tomatoes, she stated ours had been one of the best tomatoes on the earth ».

However that a part of Tuscany has remained in her coronary heart…

“Even immediately I divide myself between San Lazzaro in Bologna the place my son lives and Campiglia Marittima the place I moved once I obtained married 12 years in the past”.

c.what relationship do you’ve got with cash? Typically those that have had a tough childhood have a special imaginative and prescient than the stereotypes of pop stars.

‘Cash feeds. Level. However compulsive possession sucks. Proudly owning a home has at all times been my household’s dream they usually by no means made it occur. My dad and mom taught me two issues about cash: not being in debt and at all times strolling round together with your head held excessive.”

And the connection with creativity as a substitute? What conjures up you because the years go by, what do you have a look at, how do you dream?

«I began writing poems to impress the blonde with the braids that made my coronary heart beat in school: they had been infantile sentences stuffed with tenderness, however even then I paid numerous consideration to choosing the proper adjective. Then I began to get impressed by what I used to be studying: the studying you encounter, like music, is rarely informal, it addresses your coronary heart and your head, and modifications the trail of your sensitivity, you discover religion, goodness, sweetness . I graduated in accounting at 60 to please my mom, and I needed to relearn how you can examine. However I’ve at all times lived surrounded by books, first Tex Willer and Mickey Mouse, then more and more advanced readings to encourage me to jot down Melancholy or on a regular basis tales now and again, the latter conceived after studying ‘A degree by Totò. I’ve at all times believed that it’s the concepts that finally prevent and information you and in reality even immediately once I learn I at all times hold the pen in my hand, to take notes and feed on what another person has written “

His first musical expertise is with the Slenders, a band of “hair metalworkers”, as he outlined them, a sort of “Piombinesi Maneskin”.

“The comparability with the Maneskins was clearly a sport stated with the utmost respect for the extraordinary Maneskins, as a result of in 1964 we turned the jack in hand, put it within the amp and began enjoying with no frills. We weren’t cool like them, however we had been undoubtedly the good group of metalworkers in Italy, and possibly on the earth, after the Beatles… As a result of I think about they too breathed numerous coal in Liverpool ».

Then after all the Poohs. With which he wrote historical past.

“Anybody between the ages of fifty and 60 grew up with Pooh’s songs and mine. And now that the group is gone, they keep in your coronary heart and provide help to reside. We have all had not less than one love story that appears like a Pooh tune. There was a prophetic potential to talk of affection and that’s what a author should do: learn you into your soul. Even when a few years have handed between us, we nonetheless name ourselves “brothers,” though there are occasions after we assume in a different way as brothers. I nonetheless keep in mind the 1000’s of determined folks after we broke up, they might have given a little bit of life to persuade us to remain collectively ».

It was his love affair with Patty Pravo that obtained the band going.

“Our producer thought my love for Patty would hurt us. However it would not occur. After I advised my brothers that I would not let anybody resolve which girls I’d and would not date, the world got here crashing down. It value me lots to begin over, to surrender a fortune of seven years collectively. However my freedom was extra vital, I will not enable anybody to stay me to the wall and inform me what to do with my life: “Take into consideration your girlfriends and never mine,” I advised him. Then I made a decision to go away and good evening. In that recording studio I left success, cash, safety to search for my story. However I’ve missed the boys very a lot and possibly, I hope they miss me too».

What do you consider the conflict in Ukraine?

“It jogs my memory of the mid-eighties when the Ricchi e Poveri, Toto Cutugno, Albano and Romina, Pupo, the Matia Bazar, myself, all went on tour in Russia: going from Petersburg to Moscow and Kiev was like going from Milan in Bologna and Rome Then the Soviet Union fell and also you did not even want a visa to go to Ukraine Ten years in the past I took half in a Russian “Story and Which Present” in Moscow, they invited me as a result of there was a competitor imitating me. And he was Ukrainian. So good that he was higher than the unique me. They known as me and to shock him I dressed like him and let me stand on stage. We obtained married that evening buddies Now I’m wondering the place my buddy Vadim is I’m wondering if our Russian and Ukrainian buddies are capturing one another And if their youngsters turn into like Palestinians and Israelis I do not know what folks like me can do however I would love do my half.”

“I am afraid I will go to heaven tomorrow morning with out having the ability to handle all of the issues right here on earth. I want my little woman was able to go to school. I need to redecorate the backyard and substitute the tractor engine. I would love a personality like Brad Pitt to return to me in Meet Joe Black. I want to inform myself how a lot time I’ve left to reside, not less than a 12 months upfront, so I manage myself. I’m not very non secular, however I consider in God as a result of my mom believed and I’ve at all times trusted her. Pray what you need: a god, science, Bach, Mozart or Vasco Rossi, simply pray somebody. Not believing in something hurts. After I’m anxious, I relax by listening to Pink Floyd’s The Wall or Chopin’s Nocturnes or Procol Harum. Additionally as a result of I solely know two actual prayers, the Our Father and the Hail Mary. And once I’ve stated all of it, there’s nonetheless lots to hope for. So I will begin Pink Floyd ».

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June 15, 2022 | 07:08


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