The singer: “I am unable to keep in mind the lyrics of my songs.” “I wrote ‘Beware the wolf’ fascinated with my grandmother and her little home. Lucio heard it and stated: we promote one million data with this. We bought much more…”
Ron, inform me one thing nobody is aware of about your self.
«That I’m forgetful. Reminiscence has all the time been my weak spot ».
“As a baby I took treatment to enhance focus. And I could not get the poems into my head. A nightmare. Hours with my mom to review. Within the morning in school, all erased, Tabula Rasa† The instructor appeared me within the eye: “Repeat Rosalino for San Guido!”. 4 strains and vacancy fell. One other nightmare are the lyrics of the songs throughout live shows. Sure, even these of which I’m the creator ».
How does it resolve?
“I should have written all of it down for me. A sort of “hunchback” to cling to in case of emergency. The brief story, freewheeling is straightforward for me, it is sympathetic to me. Remembering, however, is a battle. Via a type of concern: the concern of constructing errors. In actual fact, I am improper. I am so distracted that I am unable to keep away from errors though I am studying. Typically I reinvent phrases. And typically I enhance the top outcome. That is how I’m, I do not know what to do … ».
What sort of boy had been you?
‘I used to be by no means a baby within the traditional sense of the phrase. My profession began too early. In 1970 I used to be singing on the Sanremo Competition Dad ‘inform it to mother’† I did not undergo puberty and have all the time labored with folks older than me: Sergio Bardotti, Lucio Dalla, Gianfranco Baldazzi. At first I used to be impressed. I stated to myself: have endurance, Rosalino, sooner or later you too might be like her ».
Are you shy?
«I’m a mature 68-year-old man who is aware of little, cultivates doubts and insecurities. And he cannot stand being referred to as unhappy.”
Let’s return to the little boy of yesteryear.
“Shy sure, however horrible. Once I was about 12-13 years previous, I used to play jokes with my pals… A little bit Pinocchio and somewhat Candlewick. I have been underneath the mattress for hours. Property. I appeared on the mattress base, the mattress. I used to be serene. I believed. I did very badly in class. Loopy ass. My dad and mom had been somewhat nervous about that son overseas† So that they put me in boarding college in Saronno. I studied as a surveyor ».
Which Italy do you keep in mind?
«I come from the province: Garlasco, Pavia, the place I nonetheless reside. I attended major and secondary college there. I used to be born in a courtyard with many homes, households, terraces, flowers. They had been all somewhat bit my father, somewhat bit my mom, somewhat bit my brothers. One by no means felt alone. A easy world: we ate the issues of the earth, of the backyard. Dad was an olive oil service provider. The Cellamare are initially from Trani, in Puglia. My grandfather got here to the north to Milan when he was 18 years previous. My grandmother was a mondina, she went to the tobacco manufacturing facility, she all the time labored, she had three youngsters. She was pleased with what she was doing, she was happy. I visited her virtually each afternoon. He made me tea with donuts from Pavia, i brassade, a recipe from over 100 years in the past. I keep in mind his tales in regards to the struggle, certainly in regards to the two wars. If she hadn’t been there, I would not have written Watch out for the Wolf.’
“Once I went to see her, I observed that the home had a smaller window. I sat down on the piano and wrote: There’s such a small home / With many coloured home windows / And such a small lady / With two huge eyes to take a look at† Initially the track was referred to as La casetta. I appreciated it, but it surely felt too private. I made a decision I would not sing it. I considered Dalla. Or to Celentano: it appeared to me that he had the best tenderness. Lucio got here as much as me whereas I used to be getting ready my album. He requested me: “Are you doing it, Rosalino?”. “No,” I replied. “So I do it: we promote one million data with this”. I added: “You might be loopy, the same old dreamer!”. He was proper. We bought many extra discs ».
The legend speaks of a instructor who places her on the trail of music, Professor Adele Bartoli, a really strict Genoese.
“He realized piano and singing. A girl from different occasions. My brother took classes. I went with him. She observed me: let me hear one thing. I owe her a useful freedom of expression: she introduced out the obvious flaws, not the particular parts, that make you distinctive. It gave me the possibility to compete for brand new voices. I sang songs like 24 thousand kisses† Crucial was the Italian Tune Honest in Milan ».
That is how he arrived on the RCA in a flash.
“A sure supervisor got here to me. He wished to satisfy his dad and mom. He requested me just a few questions. A 12 months later the decision to Rome: there was a songwriter who needed to make me take heed to a track “very appropriate for me”. I took the practice with Dad. Arrived, they made us look ahead to hours. At one level, an eccentric man entered the ready room, carrying a good leopard jumpsuit. He launched himself to my father: whats up, Nì. It was Renato Zero. I did not know him: then I solely listened to American music, Crosby Nonetheless & Nash, Cat Stevens, James Taylor. Dad gave me an indignant look: he wished to run away. ‘It is a madhouse,’ he advised me.’
As an alternative of?
“Shortly after that the singer-songwriter arrived. He was in a forged, he had simply had a motorbike accident on the ring highway. It was Lucio Dalla. The track he needed to provide me was The eyes of the woman, actually stunning, which was later dropped at success by Gianni Morandi. I used to be presupposed to sing it in Sanremo with Sandie Shaw, the barefoot singer, however the judges thought it was unsuitable. So I folded Dad ‘inform it to mother’†
Can we are saying that destiny was fulfilled at that second and when the musical universe of nice souls, of Joe Daring, of touring hearts was born?
“Uh uh uh. A while later Morandi got here to me, who had change into a buddy. He took me apart and requested: However that Lucio track you needed to sing was… The woman’s eyes? , he advised me he wrote it for me.’
Dalla was identified for reworking actuality.
‘Let’s simply say he was an enormous liar. In a great way, huh. An optimist who likes to package deal his tales, immerses himself in a sort of augmented actuality. He pursued magnificence, telling unbelievable tales. He appreciated to make life extra attention-grabbing than it was. Like Fellini. A present each time, an train in creativity. He stated he had taken a practice journey with Toto during which they laughed with out stopping for a second, he met the UFOs and noticed one coming in the direction of him after which abruptly he modified course ».
The worst second of your profession?
“The 2 years of Covid have been a torment. I walked previous the piano and guitar and ran away. Zero texts. Dangerous music. I threw every part away. I used to be within the pit. The thought of returning to live shows eventually stored me alive ».
Let’s speak in regards to the seventies.
“I had simply gone to heaven and the abyss got here. Of The Large and the Little Lady I had tasted success. The actual one, abruptly, that makes your head spin. And listed below are the Years of Lead, the period of dedication and songwriters. So-called pop music was thought of lower than scrap. Years of complete darkness got here. I began taking part in for the others, I did not really feel much less. I by no means thought: I am Ron and I am unable to go together with De Gregori or Venditti. However deep down I questioned who had turned off the sunshine. Going again appeared like a failure.”
How did it come out?
“Due to the tour banana republic with Dalla & De Gregori. An occasion that marked the start of the Eighties. Offered out each evening. I acquired quite a lot of boos. Everybody was ready for Lucio and Francesco. I proposed The Italian Boys† The general public did not need to know, most had forgotten about me. However I used to be completely satisfied. That is the place the undertaking was born A metropolis to sing and I went on at full velocity once more ».
Do you have got many pals within the singing world?
«Tosca, for instance. Collectively we received in Sanremo in 1996 with I want to meet you in 100 years† However right here I need to point out a musician who now not exists, Ivan Graziani. Shortly afterwards I did a profitable tour and a Q-Disc with him and Goran Kuzminac A metropolis to sing† We had been interrupted by the earthquake in Irpinia in 1982. Ivan was superb, beneficiant. In firm, a blast. He spoke and joked and imitated the voice of Oreste Lionello, Woody Allen’s voice actor. Musically we had been two opposites. However, a particular chemistry developed between us: it labored ».
“With Jackson Browne, Lou Reed and Paul Anka in the USA. I used to be there to recharge the batteries. Rai knew and requested me about VIP interviews. I selected Lou Reed. I made an appointment, waited every week. Once I entered RCA headquarters with the crew, the secretary warned me that Lou had smashed a bottle on the top of a person she ought to have talked to the evening earlier than and that she was recovering consequently. We acquired scared. Once I arrive I apologize, made itself accessible to us. He advised me all about American music that I had dreamed of as a baby ».
Within the Nineteen Seventies, he additionally had a promising interlude with the cinema. Two titles: “Agnes Dies” by Giuliano Montaldo and “Within the Identify of the Pope King” by Luigi Magni.
“The cinema has helped me in a darkish interval. However I by no means thought it may substitute music. I keep in mind Nino Manfredi’s good recommendation on the set of Within the title of the Pope King† Confronted with my ingenuity as an actor, he advised that I act with my eyes. Nonetheless, the debut befell with the riotous Non-public classes during which I performed a younger boy who was in love with the music instructor Carrol Baker, stunning and really motherly ».
Ron, you simply celebrated fifty years of profession with the anthology “We Do not Want Phrases” (two double CDs, 67 songs). In the summertime he plans an in depth tour with a symphony orchestra and in September he’ll provide an unreleased album with the lately launched single “Greater than I liked you”. What extra do you ask of music?
“By no means get bored.”
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